Comments on: CityBeat column: Still don’t get it http://joewessels.net/2008/05/08/citybeat-column-still-dont-get-it/ Random thoughts and observations from a freelance reporter and photographer living and working Cincinnati, Ohio. Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:52:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Brian Siegel http://joewessels.net/2008/05/08/citybeat-column-still-dont-get-it/#comment-37181 Brian Siegel Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:12:38 +0000 http://joewessels.net/?p=316#comment-37181 What are some other ways to change patterns, help directly (or indirectly if people aren't comfortable facing poverty, issues, challenges, people, etc. head on getting 'emotionally dirty') such as with fund raisers/awareness etc.? Rock on Joe! B What are some other ways to change patterns, help directly (or indirectly if people aren’t comfortable facing poverty, issues, challenges, people, etc. head on getting ‘emotionally dirty’) such as with fund raisers/awareness etc.?

Rock on Joe!
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]]> By: Brian Siegel http://joewessels.net/2008/05/08/citybeat-column-still-dont-get-it/#comment-36652 Brian Siegel Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:01:21 +0000 http://joewessels.net/?p=316#comment-36652 With great deeds all too often arises great criticism and judgment. It's simple, be good, and be good to others. If someone feels there is something wrong with creating change with action, and intentionally positive actions, why not join them, learn, and be a catalyst with them (shift change vs. shift blame)?! Actions such as you mentioned won't change the world over night, but they can certainly inspire us to connect with others in a different way. It is a challenge to give a gift, not expect, not have pride, not pass judgment, and think, "Is this really helping, or perpetuating a constant pattern of sameness?". I urge you to see the goodness in selfless acts as fruitful action and not empty lack of resolve. I like to look at Cincinnati as going through a "Cincinnati Renaissance" of sorts, and we're becoming leaders on how to revitalize their city/communities. There are causes and effects to any action, but I feel this complicated economic or knowledge economy model answers some of our dilemmas = Action>Talking. What do you feel could be done better to enhance our communities/city, as well as eliminating poverty? I seek to make positive impact, improve lives, and also not give hand outs, but rather build into/develop people with action vs. a one stop shop so to speak. I propose doing good deeds, yet offering other ways to eliminate the enabling of poor decision making, connect to organizations/others who can assist them better, and learn from each other. It is ironic you seem negative about good deeds, but I do respect your candidness and perspectives on 'hand outs are hand ups' (need to have residual and reciprocal relationships built), 'people lack the social work skills/expertise' (does one really need a masters degree to perform good works/build into one's community/people...?!). I know you do a lot, are truly and passionately involved in business as well as community driven efforts, so you're not a ego driven self absorbed spout mouth with no clout or action to back your perspectives, so I respect your words. My dilemma resides in the hearts of others who fail to get involved, yet pass judgment. I would be honored to connect with you to build ideas into action on ways that we could improve the "one stop pit stop hand out" model, and transform it into a real life changing/connecting tool! From colleagues, peers, and other experts, I know we can do it from your creative writing skills, organizations you're involved with, and really utilize your intellectual gifts/talents to be catalysts for change, and formulate better strategies. See ya around the social networks of linkedin, facebook, blogosphere, etc. or even 'do lunch/coffee'. later, look forward to hearing your innovative ideas! luceat lux vestra, Brian Siegel With great deeds all too often arises great criticism and judgment. It’s simple, be good, and be good to others. If someone feels there is something wrong with creating change with action, and intentionally positive actions, why not join them, learn, and be a catalyst with them (shift change vs. shift blame)?! Actions such as you mentioned won’t change the world over night, but they can certainly inspire us to connect with others in a different way. It is a challenge to give a gift, not expect, not have pride, not pass judgment, and think, “Is this really helping, or perpetuating a constant pattern of sameness?”. I urge you to see the goodness in selfless acts as fruitful action and not empty lack of resolve.

I like to look at Cincinnati as going through a “Cincinnati Renaissance” of sorts, and we’re becoming leaders on how to revitalize their city/communities. There are causes and effects to any action, but I feel this complicated economic or knowledge economy model answers some of our dilemmas = Action>Talking. What do you feel could be done better to enhance our communities/city, as well as eliminating poverty?

I seek to make positive impact, improve lives, and also not give hand outs, but rather build into/develop people with action vs. a one stop shop so to speak. I propose doing good deeds, yet offering other ways to eliminate the enabling of poor decision making, connect to organizations/others who can assist them better, and learn from each other. It is ironic you seem negative about good deeds, but I do respect your candidness and perspectives on ‘hand outs are hand ups’ (need to have residual and reciprocal relationships built), ‘people lack the social work skills/expertise’ (does one really need a masters degree to perform good works/build into one’s community/people…?!).

I know you do a lot, are truly and passionately involved in business as well as community driven efforts, so you’re not a ego driven self absorbed spout mouth with no clout or action to back your perspectives, so I respect your words. My dilemma resides in the hearts of others who fail to get involved, yet pass judgment. I would be honored to connect with you to build ideas into action on ways that we could improve the “one stop pit stop hand out” model, and transform it into a real life changing/connecting tool! From colleagues, peers, and other experts, I know we can do it from your creative writing skills, organizations you’re involved with, and really utilize your intellectual gifts/talents to be catalysts for change, and formulate better strategies. See ya around the social networks of linkedin, facebook, blogosphere, etc. or even ‘do lunch/coffee’.

later, look forward to hearing your innovative ideas!

luceat lux vestra,
Brian Siegel

]]> By: Paul Willham http://joewessels.net/2008/05/08/citybeat-column-still-dont-get-it/#comment-35520 Paul Willham Tue, 27 May 2008 16:59:57 +0000 http://joewessels.net/?p=316#comment-35520 The problem with this kind of well intentioned "charity" is that it does nothing to address the real problem and if anything "enables" certain people to continue with bad choices. These churches arent social workers and lack the skills to make a difference. They had a problem here in Indianapolis with churches coming out and cooking food in the parks for homeless people, who already eat six times day by walking from one shelter to another. Fortunately the city put a quick stop to that because you would need an event liscense amd a catering liscense. I am moving to Cincinnati later this summer and I am sure this is an issue which wont "go away" anytime soon. Its always a challenge when a neighborhood begins to change. Those who choose to move to an urban neighborood and pioneer are accused of gentrification. I dont think this is a bad thing to turn around a neighborhood , restore empty housing and create a vibrant community. The problem with this kind of well intentioned “charity” is that it does nothing to address the real problem and if anything “enables” certain people to continue with bad choices. These churches arent social workers and lack the skills to make a difference. They had a problem here in Indianapolis with churches coming out and cooking food in the parks for homeless people, who already eat six times day by walking from one shelter to another. Fortunately the city put a quick stop to that because you would need an event liscense amd a catering liscense.

I am moving to Cincinnati later this summer and I am sure this is an issue which wont “go away” anytime soon. Its always a challenge when a neighborhood begins to change. Those who choose to move to an urban neighborood and pioneer are accused of gentrification. I dont think this is a bad thing to turn around a neighborhood , restore empty housing and create a vibrant community.

]]> By: Blake Fox http://joewessels.net/2008/05/08/citybeat-column-still-dont-get-it/#comment-35075 Blake Fox Tue, 13 May 2008 06:22:24 +0000 http://joewessels.net/?p=316#comment-35075 When the righteous become vampires. There is no reflection. When the righteous become vampires. There is no reflection.

]]> By: Randy Simes http://joewessels.net/2008/05/08/citybeat-column-still-dont-get-it/#comment-35032 Randy Simes Mon, 12 May 2008 03:36:32 +0000 http://joewessels.net/?p=316#comment-35032 I was reading this column while I was waiting on some take out Chinese, and just kept thinking to myself how much I agree with what you're saying. I know a lot of people can easily get offended on the topic, but I'm right there with you. I was reading this column while I was waiting on some take out Chinese, and just kept thinking to myself how much I agree with what you’re saying.

I know a lot of people can easily get offended on the topic, but I’m right there with you.

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